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Post by Nuciferyne on Dec 14, 2013 17:21:44 GMT -6
I can and will ramble about anything. I'm serious. I spent two hours last night writing BS stories on DA profiles ( like this one) when I was painting a commissioned piece. LOL So now, since this forum needs activity until more people arrive..... I will ramble here as I paint. Please talk to me. You guys all seem so interesting. ;w; <3 Preferably not spam, actual conversations that don't really need a topic thread or something I dunno? |
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Post by pilotobvious on Dec 14, 2013 18:05:02 GMT -6
Hmm, what's on your mind right now, Nuci? I feel like I'm going through a midlife crisis.  Or as much of a midlife crisis that a freshly turned 18 year old can experience. |
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Post by not u on Dec 14, 2013 23:05:59 GMT -6
Haha I know the feeling Kellie omg, I usually text people a lot when I'm drawing and animating things, especially if they're for school @u@
Oh man Pilot ;~; That's the college-age midlife crisis I think most people have. You were planning on studying industrial design, right? Still having different thoughts about that?
I've been having a bit of a midlife crisis myself at 22 with my graduation coming up haha, maybe they should just be re-named "life crisis" ;u;
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Post by pilotobvious on Dec 14, 2013 23:43:18 GMT -6
Haha Arenia, luckily I'm pretty solid on the industrial design idea. I have my application sent in to my college of choice, so I just need to fill in scholarships. At least I got that going for me. And that's the only thing that will matter one year from now. What I'm about to explain will have absolutely no meaning in about 6 months time... after I graduate high school. I'm more worried about sports. I had major issues with cross country in the fall (I have horrible leg issues, a stress fracture my freshman year never really healed properly so I still have flare ups... or I think that's what it is.) With the horrible season, it kind of put a damper on my senior year because now I don't even know if I want to do track. I'm already (about 97% sure) that I'm bailing out of indoor because I have issues with the coach (Who was also the cc coach, who would've guessed /sarcasm) and I think I want to drop outdoor track too. But I'm known as the runner at my school. I'm the one who loves running and the one who will run in 6 inches of snow. @_@ It's pretty much expected of me to run. I expect myself to run because I've been running for 5 years. I'm not really a 'great' runner, I just enjoy what I do... or I used to. I've been trying to talk to people, coaches and friends... but I never get any real answers. Maybe that's because I don't know what I want to do myself. On the one hand, I've been getting worse every year so this senior year is probably not going to be good (Along with aforementioned leg issues), but on the other hand, it could be a very fun year and I might have potential. I also happen to be a high jumper, so I figured I could focus on that and excel in it, but my outdoor track coach (Different guy) would probably force me to run... but I just really hate running right now. It makes me all depressed thinking about it. Like, serious depression. But I think most of it is because I really looked up to my cross country coach and they totally let me down. Lots of issues came up this year. Issues that are too complicated to explain on here.*Edit* This is something I probably shouldn't be putting on here. But nobody related to this will ever read it....! |
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Post by Evan on Dec 15, 2013 6:15:51 GMT -6
Well it might sound generic, but I feel like all I can say is something the like of "Do whatever it is you want to." If what's expected of you isn't something you want to do, then simply don't do it. If running is really that important to you, then it will probably work its way back into your life in time, but there's nothing wrong with stopping until you ever want to do it again - or otherwise forever if you never do.
Waddaya mean about having to run to high jump? I can see how the two are related, but maybe you won't have to run that much? Could you possibly ask the coach about it? Maybe he could make an exception.
Sorry, I'm really bad at stuff like this.
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Post by pilotobvious on Dec 15, 2013 13:00:39 GMT -6
Haha thanks for your input Evan. I think that's why I'm probably going to skip the indoor track season this winter, unless I feel like practicing high jump. Maybe all I need is a break.
My coach wants to get us in a wide variety of events. I'm still a distance runner, even if I don't want to do it. If I do track for high jump, then my coach will schedule me into running events as well because it's ultimately his choice and not mine. I can (And will) talk to him when I get the chance. I'm sure we can come to a compromise, but that means I'll still have to do some running even if I don't want to.
I'm bad at this stuff too. Especially when people are trying to help me. I react, and then I might change my mind, but then I'll revert back to what I originally thought. I just don't know what to do, so my mind keeps hopping around and around. Things will work out soon enough, but up until that point, I freak out about everything. lol I guess I need some form of closure or decision before my stress goes away.
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Post by not u on Dec 15, 2013 19:02:37 GMT -6
Haha Arenia, luckily I'm pretty solid on the industrial design idea. I have my application sent in to my college of choice, so I just need to fill in scholarships. At least I got that going for me. And that's the only thing that will matter one year from now. What I'm about to explain will have absolutely no meaning in about 6 months time... after I graduate high school. I'm more worried about sports. I had major issues with cross country in the fall (I have horrible leg issues, a stress fracture my freshman year never really healed properly so I still have flare ups... or I think that's what it is.) With the horrible season, it kind of put a damper on my senior year because now I don't even know if I want to do track. I'm already (about 97% sure) that I'm bailing out of indoor because I have issues with the coach (Who was also the cc coach, who would've guessed /sarcasm) and I think I want to drop outdoor track too. But I'm known as the runner at my school. I'm the one who loves running and the one who will run in 6 inches of snow. @_@ It's pretty much expected of me to run. I expect myself to run because I've been running for 5 years. I'm not really a 'great' runner, I just enjoy what I do... or I used to. I've been trying to talk to people, coaches and friends... but I never get any real answers. Maybe that's because I don't know what I want to do myself. On the one hand, I've been getting worse every year so this senior year is probably not going to be good (Along with aforementioned leg issues), but on the other hand, it could be a very fun year and I might have potential. I also happen to be a high jumper, so I figured I could focus on that and excel in it, but my outdoor track coach (Different guy) would probably force me to run... but I just really hate running right now. It makes me all depressed thinking about it. Like, serious depression. But I think most of it is because I really looked up to my cross country coach and they totally let me down. Lots of issues came up this year. Issues that are too complicated to explain on here.*Edit* This is something I probably shouldn't be putting on here. But nobody related to this will ever read it....!I'm with Evan here, are you still really enjoying running? It was expected of you to be the runner back when you enjoyed it, but if it's not only affecting your health but isn't fun for you anymore, it's not fair to let other people's expectations rule you, especially in your senior year! This is the last year of high school, you shouldn't have to feel the pressure of other people's preconceived notions, nor should you have to feel that stress because of it! It's really frustrating that the track coaches don't understand that you want to participate only in the "field" events, I thought there were all sorts of other events besides just running associated with track? Why would they not let you focus on the one that you excel at and enjoy? If you approached them with the angle that you cannot run because of a medical condition will they really turn you down for it? I really hope you can compromise with him so at least he won't schedule you for a bunch of distance events or something @@ It's unfortunate that people that you trusted have been letting you down, I'm sorry that's happening ;~; I would say, if you don't enjoy running anymore and it's adversely affecting your health, then don't do it. People can expect all they want to but in the end it's up to you what you want to do, and sometimes that's a very hard thing to decide on. At least college is squared away for you though! C: I guess everyone has to have stress somewhere, but at least one big section of your life is all settled down! |
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Post by Kisaka on Dec 15, 2013 20:28:26 GMT -6
I was going to say something about all this... but I feel like everyone else has already covered it haha! Regardless, I'll put in my two cents for the sake of you getting more opinions about this. Hopefully it'll help you come to an answer you feel confident in.
Anyway, about the actual discussion. I agree with the others in saying that you shouldn't do something you don't want to do. If it's causing you pain and stress, it's probably best to have a conversation with your coaches about it so that it doesn't continue to bring you stress. They will hopefully understand the condition that you're in and be a little more lenient. If not, it probably is a good idea to try and at least give it a break until you come to an overall conclusion.
But you should definitely give yourself more time to think until you do come to a conclusion. It's always best to try and be certain before making any decisions.
Best of luck no matter what you do, though! ;n;
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Post by pilotobvious on Dec 15, 2013 21:31:09 GMT -6
Certainty must hate me. I can never come to a decision right away. lol I want to thank everybody who threw in their two cents. It makes me feel a lot better. It's reassuring and refreshing to see people who care, especially when they don't even know me. I really do need to speak to my track coach about all of this. I'm sure he'll have a lot to add as well. I've briefly discussed with my cross country coach/indoor track coach, and he doesn't ever have much to say. Communication and feelings is definitely not his strong point. But I should try again. lol Thank you all again!  |
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Post by not u on Dec 16, 2013 0:40:53 GMT -6
I think a lot of people are uncertain about a lot of things ;u; It's reassuring to hear other opinions and know that you're correct in your thinking ^^
Good luck speaking with your coach, dear! Definitely emphasize that this is a medical issue. It's not like you're lazy and want to do "easy" events or something so you can put track on your high school resume. There's no reason for him to not compromise with you ;u;
Good luck! <3
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Post by not u on Dec 16, 2013 6:16:13 GMT -6
Haaa, my winter portfolio review is in like, 4 hours, I haven't slept at all because I've been preparing everything to show at the review /)__(\ You'd think after like, 4 years of semester-end critiques (these are the fabled art school critiques where certain professors may or may not rip your work apart) I'd be used to it but just one of the professors makes me SO nervous every time I have him. He's the harshest critic in the department, and is not above snide personal remarks and ad-hominem attacks when he wants to drive his point across. He also hates anime, and I never show anime at art school, but this semester one of my professors who will also be at the review told me to bring in Terra Lucis to show. He wants me to show the heavy amount of work and dedication I've been pouring my free time into and also he thinks the animation itself is really great (He's not huge on anime-esque styles either but he's a bit more... open to it if you can make yourself stand out?)
I'm so scared that the one professor is going to rip things apart. I'm bringing a freaking metric ton of life drawings and realism-based work that I do for school that I'm hoping will soften the blow? (I can draw! I know how to draw actually really well! I'm not drawing this style because it's "easy" but because I choose to!) I don't care about critiquing the art and animation that's the whole damn point of the review, but the one time I showed anime in my freshman year review, I got insulted and torn down about me as a person and my choices rather than my art. I don't want to be called an "Osamu Tezuka rip off", or told that "You think you're some black sheep by the way you dress but you draw like a big white sheep in a big white herd", or told that "all you can draw is vapid pretty girls and boys with no substance", or told that "You're not going to get a single job, except maybe one that pays $30 a week in China". I don't know I really shouldn't go into depth about it here (paranoia lmao) but just, this professor scares me and he's seeing anime work for the first time in 3 years ;; I just don't want 20 minutes of bashing about things that aren't even art or skill or technique related. It's just like, I'm commuting into school for a proper critique, don't waste my damn time complaining that I'm "stealing a style from a dead man" ;;
Sorry for rambling but I guess that's what the babble thread is for lmao. I should probably try to rest a little before I have to catch the train ;u; This is such a freaking temporary issue but it's been keeping my brain a bit too busy to fall asleep.
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Post by Nuciferyne on Dec 16, 2013 7:41:13 GMT -6
Wha- I made a post last night where did it go??? LMAO WELL THEN. I had also encouraged you with all that Pilot, but I agree with Evan. Don't let anyone else influence what you do with your life, you're the one that's going to be living with the consequences of your decisions. Do what you enjoy, life's too short not to! Plus you're going to spend enough time doing things you don't particularly want to. :c As for this last post Arenia, feel free to babble to me about things all you want! D: That is really scary, but listen-- I've seen some of your more detailed work. You DEFINITELY can draw. And your anime style isn't just a carbon copy of anything, you have your own style. Professionals shouldn't look at things with such a huge bias. They should see how talented you are, even if they don't like the content or style. They should see, "Hey, this girl has done the story writing, the animation through all stages, the character concepts, EVERYTHING on her own, she could do any part of this professionally!". I know it's hard to keep it in your mind but you need to keep what you just said to us in mind. If that professor wants to ignorantly tear you down, don't let it break your spirit. Trust me, I'm a big ball of paranoid anxiety when it comes to expressing myself to people like this, but it's because of that I can say that it does no good. They'll think what they want, just consider it a personal motivation to keep doing what you want and do it well.  |
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Post by pilotobvious on Dec 16, 2013 14:10:50 GMT -6
Haaa, my winter portfolio review is in like, 4 hours, I haven't slept at all because I've been preparing everything to show at the review /)__(\ You'd think after like, 4 years of semester-end critiques (these are the fabled art school critiques where certain professors may or may not rip your work apart) I'd be used to it but just one of the professors makes me SO nervous every time I have him. He's the harshest critic in the department, and is not above snide personal remarks and ad-hominem attacks when he wants to drive his point across. He also hates anime, and I never show anime at art school, but this semester one of my professors who will also be at the review told me to bring in Terra Lucis to show. He wants me to show the heavy amount of work and dedication I've been pouring my free time into and also he thinks the animation itself is really great (He's not huge on anime-esque styles either but he's a bit more... open to it if you can make yourself stand out?) I'm so scared that the one professor is going to rip things apart. I'm bringing a freaking metric ton of life drawings and realism-based work that I do for school that I'm hoping will soften the blow? (I can draw! I know how to draw actually really well! I'm not drawing this style because it's "easy" but because I choose to!) I don't care about critiquing the art and animation that's the whole damn point of the review, but the one time I showed anime in my freshman year review, I got insulted and torn down about me as a person and my choices rather than my art. I don't want to be called an "Osamu Tezuka rip off", or told that "You think you're some black sheep by the way you dress but you draw like a big white sheep in a big white herd", or told that "all you can draw is vapid pretty girls and boys with no substance", or told that "You're not going to get a single job, except maybe one that pays $30 a week in China". I don't know I really shouldn't go into depth about it here (paranoia lmao) but just, this professor scares me and he's seeing anime work for the first time in 3 years ;; I just don't want 20 minutes of bashing about things that aren't even art or skill or technique related. It's just like, I'm commuting into school for a proper critique, don't waste my damn time complaining that I'm "stealing a style from a dead man" ;; Sorry for rambling but I guess that's what the babble thread is for lmao. I should probably try to rest a little before I have to catch the train ;u; This is such a freaking temporary issue but it's been keeping my brain a bit too busy to fall asleep. Awww, Arenia. My old art teacher hated anime as well. For a lot of reasons, many art teachers seem to hate it. I don't really know why. Maybe they think it all looks the same? But it doesn't! A lot of people don't see the beauty in anime style art. It sounds like your freshmen critique was really rough. I'm sorry to hear that. It must be really harsh and intimidating to have portfolio reviews in college. I don't think I've seen any of your realism and figure drawings, but I'm sure they look great. As long as you have a nice balance, I don't think he should rip you apart. (But what do I know.) Just go in with an open mind, and if things don't go your way, remember that your allowed to take in what you want. You don't have to listen to one person's negative opinions, because thousands of others thing your Terra Lucis and anime stuff is great. I'm sure he'll be really insightful even if his words are mean, I guess you gotta look in the right place. And remember that one professor had enough faith in your to show your Terra Lucis stuff, so that's gotta mean something, right? |
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Post by not u on Dec 16, 2013 17:51:55 GMT -6
Hngg had the review. It was definitely annoying but it's funny because mine was relatively one of the best reviews of the day and yet it was still irksome lmao I guess it's just the nature of the professors. I do really good observational work and the professors are just gushing over how that looks professional but everything out of my head is "amateur", even though the rest of the students thought some of my best pieces were the ones the professors hated? They got into arguments about this a couple of times too with one of the professors calling out another one of them on comparing apples to oranges with my observational and stylized work. It just turned into a 45 minute opinion fest as per usual, although that could've been way worse at least ;u;
But what irritated me to the point of like, thinking about it throughout the day, is the nasty professor when I showed the fight scenes, literally says to me completely seriously, "You seriously need to get your OCD under control. I mean it." What does that MEAN? Like, what kind of comment is that? Luckily after I showed them the finished Scene 2 after that and all were impressed with that one professor remarking that if I "drop the generic style and story that maybe you could get somewhere and gain a real audience." like he could even know what the story is about from 3 minutes of the pilot? Idk whatever its better than it could've been at least. I'll just make the rest look 10x better than scene 2 and knock them off their damn seats. I don't want to be an artsy animator. That's not the only way to success.
I'm on my phone now so I'm sure there are typos and it's tough to reply but thanks fir the help guys ;v;
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Post by pilotobvious on Dec 16, 2013 18:00:40 GMT -6
lol It's amazing how everyone has a different opinion when it comes to art. You're stuck in the middle hearing all sides of the circle and it just confuses you. One person likes it, another hates it. They love a certain style, but the other person says it's not unique, and it's just argument after argument. It sounds like it went better than what you initially expected, so that's good. And his remark about OCD... I have no idea. And they really can't tell what the story is from three minutes of animation. That would irk me too. It sounds like they motivated you to go above and beyond, so at least you got something really good out of this. Keep up the great work!  |
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Or as much of a midlife crisis that a freshly turned 18 year old can experience. 
