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Post by not u on Apr 13, 2014 20:17:26 GMT -6
I'm running into this big problem where my aunt whom I live with is asking to see Terra Lucis, because I showed it to an uncle that I'm really close to earlier today. Now, normally I have no problem showing my stuff to family, but my aunt is incredibly, vehemently, against magical elements in stories. She's lectured me on why Yu Gi Oh is evil, and took away my Harry Potter book when I was 12. Now, Terra Lucis has an absolute metric shit ton of magical elements, including rune circles and the like. I'm completely petrified of showing her because I don't want to get yelled at, or when asked to tell her what the story is about, to get absolutely ripped apart and have it called evil (there's some super dark stuff, even just making up the main elements) ;; What do you guys think I should do? I can't hide it forever, but now that she's asking over and over again I'm getting really nervous...
Does anyone else have issues with family or friends when it comes to their work?
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Post by Nuciferyne on Apr 13, 2014 22:27:01 GMT -6
Oh man, that really sucks... :s My mom is pretty.... closed minded about a lot too. So I have to be extremely careful with what artwork she sees. She doesn't seem quite as bad about it as your aunt, but she's not far off.
Ehh, I just dealt with it by not showing her much, but that's not going to fly in your situation... hmm. The best thing I can say is to be honest and just tell her its not really something she will appreciate.... but I'm not sure how well that will go over either. >_<;;;
I wish I had some better advice.... good luck with it. ;__;
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Post by cassiroll on Apr 13, 2014 23:13:06 GMT -6
I stopped showing my mom stuff due to a semi-traumatic experience I had once. It wasn't artwork, but it was a music video (my friends acted in it) that I spent dozens of hours working on and didn't think anything was wrong with it until she literally walked out on it before the end of the video that was like "hey look, encouraging message despite the sadness of the video". It literally took me years to be even able to listen to that song again.
...That's probably not very encouraging OTL but I know where you're coming from.
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Post by melty on Apr 14, 2014 5:51:29 GMT -6
I haven't shown my family much, just the odd animation here and there. Unfortunately, everyone knows about me liking anime and stuff. Sometimes I wish to be a closet otaku, and I wonder whether anything would be easier. owo;;;
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Post by Kisaka on Apr 14, 2014 11:17:05 GMT -6
I feel like I shouldn't post anything here mainly because I haven't had any real issues with my family and my art. I started off drawing power puff girls in kindergarten and then started drawing weird little cartoon people until Sabrina the teenaged witch comic book had a remodel of the art style and called it "manga" style. I fell in love with that and started drawing only that and borrowing tons of How to Draw Manga books from the library. My parents were pretty okay with whatever I wanted to draw, but I had to be careful what all I let them see. (Sometimes I'd borrow the occasional Love Hina book and get scared they'd see some of the nudey scenes... oh Ken Akamatsu~) I'd get scolded over anime stuff if it came up to inappropriate and specifically was told NOT to look up "hentai". Other then those precautions they are pretty chill. My more distant family didn't seem to care too much, while a few others were interested to see my art. My sister has started drawing anime-styled things because of me as well.
Also Arenia with the issue with your Aunt, I think it might be a good idea to explain to her that she might not like/agree with the storyline it's done in, but if she still wanted to see it that you'd leave it up to her. I'd try and ask her if she was really that interested to not to say anything not nice about it since you personally like the story and worked really hard on it?
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Post by not u on Apr 14, 2014 13:25:34 GMT -6
Nuciferyne Thanks ;~; I'm sorry you've had this problem too, it's frustrating not seeing eye to eye with a family member about something like this @@ I'm going to try and put it off until the day of the reception, where she'll be seeing it with tons of other people around so it'll be less of a big deal, I'm just worried she'll keep heckling me up until that point (2 weeks from now) so hopefully she'll just forget until then? Maybe? cassiroll Oh my god that's horrible I'm sorry that happened to you ;; This seems like a fairly common thing from what I'm seeing here which is disappointing ;; melty Haha! I guess being a closeted anime fan would be possible if you didn't have any merchandise or didn't go to any conventions, that would be a tough thing though .-. Yeah most of my family knows about it with me too, so they always need to bring "those japanese cartoons" into every conversation with me which is bizarre, but they have the best intentions @v@ But at least the rest of them aren't as close minded about it as my aunt @kisaka I drew powerpuff girls at one point too haha! I drew them along with Pokemon and Legend of Zelda fanart which is how I got into the style when I was like 6 or so. Most of my family is pretty okay with it, with people like my dad even encouraging it (he used to program video games) but it's just an issue with my aunt. I've been thinking of approaching it that way if necessary, I just worry she'll ask me to go into detail and the like. I'm going to hope that when she sees it it won't be in a one-on-one situation. Best case scenario would be the opening reception for the thesis exhibition so that there'd be tons of people around to soften the blow a bit?, hopefully she forgets about it until then though. :s
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Post by pilotobvious on Apr 14, 2014 16:42:58 GMT -6
I was always shy showing my work. Hell, I still am. I just fear judgment too much. Even if it is mostly positive. Just the fact that it isn't anonymous makes me nauseated. However, my family is aware of my movie project, they just haven't seen much because I don't like to show unfinished work. (I don't think they'd like it because of the sheer amount of violence in it).
As far as the religious/magic connotations go, your aunt will probably disapprove of it if she didn't like Yu-Gi-Oh. But it sounds like the rest of your family is very encouraging and positive!!! I think Kisaka gave great advice about how you should forewarn her of the content, but still give her the option to watch it if she so chooses. If she doesn't like it, it'll be hard to hear, but I guess it's nice that she took the time to watch it? But I feel like you're old enough where your aunt should respect your content and views, considering they aren't the same as hers. She may not like it, but that's no reason for her to throw her disdain onto your shoulders.
Let us know how it goes, though! I'd like to hear!
And I too drew Powerpuff Girls and Pokemon. hahaha I think it's a phase a lot of us anime girls went through.
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Post by Missy R. on Apr 15, 2014 5:01:36 GMT -6
It just occurred to me that both my parents and friends of mine have read a story of mine involving a rather brutal rape scene. Good on me.
Whenever I have stuff written for NaNoWriMo I tend to publish it and show anyone who asks, so yeah. Most people I know around here are pretty liberal so they don't get offended too much. As for art, I don't show that often.
Even so, I hope it all goes well with you!
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Post by schribbit on Apr 16, 2014 4:40:38 GMT -6
I know where you're coming from. When I was younger my mom told me anime was evil... but then I started watching it anyway. After I did, my mom got used to it and even brought me home random manga books sometimes. my dad and brother also don't really like anime but made me a wooden poster thing that had my favorite anime character posted on it. what I'm trying to say is, though I don't know exactly how your aunt will react, with time, it will get better. note I am 18 now and can pretty much watch and create anything I want, because I mainly don't show them. (though, if my dad knew I was supportive of lgbtq rights in the things I create... I don't think he would smile and nod) Anyway, if she asks again, just tell her you are no longer comfortable with showing others. just say circumstances have changed in your confidence or something, and even though you showed your uncle, you are no longer comfortable with showing it to others. If all else fails... tell them you gave up on it! it's not like they'll KNOW.
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Post by Nuciferyne on Apr 17, 2014 2:41:31 GMT -6
I know where you're coming from. When I was younger my mom told me anime was evil... but then I started watching it anyway. After I did, my mom got used to it and even brought me home random manga books sometimes. my dad and brother also don't really like anime but made me a wooden poster thing that had my favorite anime character posted on it. what I'm trying to say is, though I don't know exactly how your aunt will react, with time, it will get better. note I am 18 now and can pretty much watch and create anything I want, because I mainly don't show them. (though, if my dad knew I was supportive of lgbtq rights in the things I create... I don't think he would smile and nod) Anyway, if she asks again, just tell her you are no longer comfortable with showing others. just say circumstances have changed in your confidence or something, and even though you showed your uncle, you are no longer comfortable with showing it to others. If all else fails... tell them you gave up on it! it's not like they'll KNOW. Anime is evil... XD! My mom thinks of hentai whenever anime is mentioned... v__v not u I really hope she stops heckling you >_<
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Post by not u on Apr 17, 2014 20:39:41 GMT -6
Nuciferyne schribbit Thank goodness she's seemed to have forgotten for now @@ She'll be attending my thesis show though, so she'll see it then but hopefully with hundreds of other people around it'll be less of an issue since there's so much other stuff going on around us? Missy R. I'm so jealous omg I wish the people around me didn't get offended at these types of things. Brutal rape scene though, ahaa I can't even imagine how they'd react fff!
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Post by Missy R. on Apr 17, 2014 21:59:25 GMT -6
Nuciferyne schribbit Thank goodness she's seemed to have forgotten for now @@ She'll be attending my thesis show though, so she'll see it then but hopefully with hundreds of other people around it'll be less of an issue since there's so much other stuff going on around us? Missy R. I'm so jealous omg I wish the people around me didn't get offended at these types of things. Brutal rape scene though, ahaa I can't even imagine how they'd react fff! My father admitted to flipping past that scene in particular cause he could tell what was happening, haha.
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Post by pilotobvious on Jun 11, 2014 20:38:59 GMT -6
Hmm, after a few recent experiences, I've come to a couple conclusions. My dad just adores anything and everything I create. My mom is less enthused and has a more critical reception.
Point in case: I made my mom a watercolor for Mother's Day. I made it during art class at school, so they hung it in the hallway for awhile... it was going to be a late gift. It was a picture of me with my grandfather when I was younger, with a quote from the song Georgia on My Mind. (Which is kind of like a family song my grandparents would always sing/hum/whistle/play on the piano...) This particular picture also was showcased during our school's academic awards. My father happened to go, whereas my mother was busy with something. My dad saw it first and was super impressed. He adored it and when he got home, he told my mom that she would absolutely love it.
Fast forward to when she received it. My mom just kind of looked at it and said, "It's nice... What's the point of that quote though?" She was unimpressed and didn't care for the quote. I explained that I see the song as our 'family tune' and she just kind of shrugged like it was whatever. =/ It kind of left a sour taste in my mouth, and is one of the reasons why I am hesitant in sharing my work.
And even more recently, I drew a portrait of James May from Top Gear. One of my best realism portraits to date. (I rarely do them...) She looked at it and said, "...Oh... that's nice." Once again in an unimpressed tone.
I don't know, maybe she is like me and doesn't show any enthusiasm. But then again, she's also the one who suggested I quit cross country simply because I was 'struggling.' I was just an average runner, not great, not bad. Finished in the middle of the pack when I wasn't hurting. She has one of those mentalities where if you aren't the best, then you should just give up.
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Post by Nuciferyne on Jun 11, 2014 20:45:36 GMT -6
Hmm, after a few recent experiences, I've come to a couple conclusions. My dad just adores anything and everything I create. My mom is less enthused and has a more critical reception. Point in case: I made my mom a watercolor for Mother's Day. I made it during art class at school, so they hung it in the hallway for awhile... it was going to be a late gift. It was a picture of me with my grandfather when I was younger, with a quote from the song Georgia on My Mind. (Which is kind of like a family song my grandparents would always sing/hum/whistle/play on the piano...) This particular picture also was showcased during our school's academic awards. My father happened to go, whereas my mother was busy with something. My dad saw it first and was super impressed. He adored it and when he got home, he told my mom that she would absolutely love it. Fast forward to when she received it. My mom just kind of looked at it and said, "It's nice... What's the point of that quote though?" She was unimpressed and didn't care for the quote. I explained that I see the song as our 'family tune' and she just kind of shrugged like it was whatever. =/ It kind of left a sour taste in my mouth, and is one of the reasons why I am hesitant in sharing my work. And even more recently, I drew a portrait of James May from Top Gear. One of my best realism portraits to date. (I rarely do them...) She looked at it and said, "...Oh... that's nice." Once again in an unimpressed tone. I don't know, maybe she is like me and doesn't show any enthusiasm. But then again, she's also the one who suggested I quit cross country simply because I was 'struggling.' I was just an average runner, not great, not bad. Finished in the middle of the pack when I wasn't hurting. She has one of those mentalities where if you aren't the best, then you should just give up. Maybe you should talk to your Dad about how your mom makes you feel and get his opinion on it. It could be that she doesn't know how to really comment on things, or maybe it's irrelevant to her interests (which even still you're her daughter she should be interested in that at least). One of my friends responds almost exactly like this too. She's basically always pointing out the critical things and never really seems impressed. It makes it hard to talk to her about things that really matter to me.... which I guess being uninterested/unimpressed is better than outright downing you about it or bluntly discouraging you. But I understand how it makes it hard to share. Honestly, in that case, as I said, I just wouldn't really show much enthusiasm when it came to sharing things with her. Show them off to Dad instead. But overall, I think it should be addressed, to give her a chance to clear it up.
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