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Post by Nuciferyne on Mar 30, 2014 12:23:31 GMT -6
As someone who suffers from depression and general anxiety disorder- I can definitely say you're right about it not being beautiful. It's not hip, it's not cool, it's not dreamy, it's freaking miserable... and in terms of depression, it's misery in emptiness. Those people (and a few former friends of mine have quite the fetish for those things and sociopaths too so I might be sounding a bit more aggressive than intended) just don't understand.. honestly to me it's a pretty warped attraction. Like, I know there are a lot of people who are blissfully ignorant, but c'mon. They have no idea how miserable it is to have all these big dreams/desires and a love and appreciating for something but never have the genuine motivation, energy, or urge to do it. And if you somehow push past that? You don't even feel enjoyment... but you remember. You remember that feeling, and you really really wish you could feel it again. Yeah, that's surely something to romanticize. Your second point is highly agreeable and I honestly hadn't thought of such a clear way to express that. *claps*
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Post by not u on Mar 30, 2014 19:38:29 GMT -6
Oh my god thank you. I see people flaunt around "Oh I'm ~neuroatypical~" like it's some kind of badge. I see people pointing out all of the "good" qualities of being depressed, schizophrenic, bipolar, etc. and act like it's a superpower. (there is actually a post on tumblr calling these things a superpower. I'm not even paraphrasing.) It makes me absolutely sick. People with these problems need help and support and concern, not a flock of ignorant enablers. I also have clinical depression and social anxiety to the point where I'm sometimes afraid to even check my e-mail. It's embarrassing, it's stifling, and in some cases I've missed a lot of opportunities in my life because of it. Just... to watch people act like it's some badge of honor to flaunt around makes me want to smack them :/ Agreeing on your second point too. I swear the self-awareness of the people that say those things is just painfully low
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Post by pilotobvious on Apr 3, 2014 9:36:54 GMT -6
I hate that too. We have some kids at our school flaunt around suicide like it's cool. Like, what the fuck? That's not appropriate. And on that note, one of my acquaintances mentioned that they used to self harm and tried to kill themselves once, but now that they're over it, they think everyone else is above it too. They said something along the lines of, "If you want to out yourself, you should just go ahead and do it. Nobody needs to hear the whining." That just really irked me that night. Ever since, I haven't been able to see this person in the same light. What they said was disturbing and uncalled for. I sat in silence that entire car ride home.
On a hopefully somewhat higher note, something else that irks me is when you have one of those 'fave bots' fave your artwork on dA that you just submitted. You go on their page and see that they have over a million faves and dozens of comments from the past ten minutes that say, "Thanks for the fave! Wow, I'm so honored!" This person may or may not have tens of thousands of watchers, presumably from all the little deviants that fell in their trap.
I said thanks to one of these people, and I kid you not, this was the response I got...
Okay, I've gone through hundreds of comments and haven't gotten to mine. I'll paraphrase it...
"your welcome! I liked your piece! Now you should watch me since I liked your work!"
Ummm, no, that's not how it works. That's not how any of this works! I don't watch you because YOU liked one of MY pieces! *facepalm*
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Post by Evan on Apr 3, 2014 10:05:19 GMT -6
Speaking of DeviantArt, how is that site still not safe? It can't be just me, right? I've been having problems with DA for years now, and I've avoided it a lot as a result. I was on there briefly checking out something someone linked me to a few days ago and it managed to sneak some pesky ad-ware onto my computer. It seems like browsing the site is fine, but any time I go to view a picture it's a gamble. I don't see how a network so big can have such horrible security.
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Post by pilotobvious on Apr 3, 2014 10:47:03 GMT -6
Speaking of DeviantArt, how is that site still not safe? It can't be just me, right? I've been having problems with DA for years now, and I've avoided it a lot as a result. I was on there briefly checking out something someone linked me to a few days ago and it managed to sneak some pesky ad-ware onto my computer. It seems like browsing the site is fine, but any time I go to view a picture it's a gamble. I don't see how a network so big can have such horrible security. I've always heard about people having trouble with DeviantART, but I have never had a single issue with it. That's really weird...
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Post by Phoenix on Apr 3, 2014 12:12:27 GMT -6
Speaking of DeviantArt, how is that site still not safe? It can't be just me, right? I've been having problems with DA for years now, and I've avoided it a lot as a result. I was on there briefly checking out something someone linked me to a few days ago and it managed to sneak some pesky ad-ware onto my computer. It seems like browsing the site is fine, but any time I go to view a picture it's a gamble. I don't see how a network so big can have such horrible security. I too have never had a problem with malicious programs coming from deviant-art, I'd wager to say it's caused by something undetected on your pc or one of the ads DA uses, but malicious adsare normally only problematic if you don't use ad block. Also I guess programs that hinder your computer for no good reason make me mad.
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Post by Evan on Apr 3, 2014 13:03:23 GMT -6
I don't use ad block because most internet outlets / creators are funded by advertising, so it feels kind of cheap to deprive them of that revenue. It would be kind of silly having to activate the plugin just to go to DeviantArt, and it's definitely something that they should be dealing with anyway. I've also ruled out 'sleeping' files since it's something that happens exclusively on DeviantArt, and I don't go to any other shady places.
As a new contribution, YouTube no longer having on-site messaging makes me mad.
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Post by Phoenix on Apr 3, 2014 13:45:29 GMT -6
I don't use ad block because most internet outlets / creators are funded by advertising, so it feels kind of cheap to deprive them of that revenue. It would be kind of silly having to activate the plugin just to go to DeviantArt, and it's definitely something that they should be dealing with anyway. I've also ruled out 'sleeping' files since it's something that happens exclusively on DeviantArt, and I don't go to any other shady places. As a new contribution, YouTube no longer having on-site messaging makes me mad. Adblock does allow you to block and unblock on a site by site basis, so you can use it on sites that have malicious ads and don't bother to do anything about it. As for Youtube, I could go on for days, but I'll sum it up by saying that they are somehow the most popular video site despite lacking such basic features as 60 fps videos.
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Post by Nuciferyne on Apr 5, 2014 2:32:32 GMT -6
Speaking of deviantart, and having read Pilot's comment, something else that irks me are people who do that "I did something nice now you owe me!"
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Post by pilotobvious on Apr 5, 2014 20:44:28 GMT -6
Speaking of deviantart, and having read Pilot's comment, something else that irks me are people who do that "I did something nice now you owe me!" OOH OOH STORY TIME!!!! One time, this really nice person drew me a fanart. I loved it so much, I wanted to commission her to see more of my characters in her style. She was so thrilled, and so was I. Well, the time came around and she posted the picture. It was absolutely fantastic.... I had it as my desktop background for the longest time. I loved it so much I had actually tipped her some extra points. Well, her 'friend' noticed she had drawn a picture for me. So she asked me in a private note, "Hey, can I draw a picture of you characters too?!" I was so flattered. I couldn't believe someone wanted to draw my characters for me, so of course I said yes. So I waited a few days, and she posted hers. Interestingly enough, her image looked similar to the other person's. It had the same concept layout wise, same background color, etc. One of the faces looked traced. Yes, just one. I give my thanks, because HEY, it still looked cool and I was thankful for the kind gesture. But then a few days later, she noted me. "Why haven't you paid me yet?" Because it wasn't a commission. You asked if you could draw them. She wouldn't have it though. She called it a 'comision.' She kept noting me and harrassing me. I finally gave in and gave her like... five points or something. But oh my gosh, that's so rude. She asked to draw my characters and expected me to pay her. lol How did I turn that into a story???
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Post by Kisaka on Apr 5, 2014 21:34:50 GMT -6
OOH OOH STORY TIME!!!! One time, this really nice person drew me a fanart. I loved it so much, I wanted to commission her to see more of my characters in her style. She was so thrilled, and so was I. Well, the time came around and she posted the picture. It was absolutely fantastic.... I had it as my desktop background for the longest time. I loved it so much I had actually tipped her some extra points. Well, her 'friend' noticed she had drawn a picture for me. So she asked me in a private note, "Hey, can I draw a picture of you characters too?!" I was so flattered. I couldn't believe someone wanted to draw my characters for me, so of course I said yes. So I waited a few days, and she posted hers. Interestingly enough, her image looked similar to the other person's. It had the same concept layout wise, same background color, etc. One of the faces looked traced. Yes, just one. I give my thanks, because HEY, it still looked cool and I was thankful for the kind gesture. But then a few days later, she noted me. "Why haven't you paid me yet?" Because it wasn't a commission. You asked if you could draw them. She wouldn't have it though. She called it a 'comision.' She kept noting me and harrassing me. I finally gave in and gave her like... five points or something. But oh my gosh, that's so rude. She asked to draw my characters and expected me to pay her. lol How did I turn that into a story???Pffft geez... It's probably some kid, too. :/ That's still really ridiculous that they pretty much forced you to give them something for a drawing (that was traced) that you didn't even ask for.
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Post by Nuciferyne on Apr 11, 2014 17:56:02 GMT -6
Speaking of deviantart, and having read Pilot's comment, something else that irks me are people who do that "I did something nice now you owe me!" OOH OOH STORY TIME!!!! One time, this really nice person drew me a fanart. I loved it so much, I wanted to commission her to see more of my characters in her style. She was so thrilled, and so was I. Well, the time came around and she posted the picture. It was absolutely fantastic.... I had it as my desktop background for the longest time. I loved it so much I had actually tipped her some extra points. Well, her 'friend' noticed she had drawn a picture for me. So she asked me in a private note, "Hey, can I draw a picture of you characters too?!" I was so flattered. I couldn't believe someone wanted to draw my characters for me, so of course I said yes. So I waited a few days, and she posted hers. Interestingly enough, her image looked similar to the other person's. It had the same concept layout wise, same background color, etc. One of the faces looked traced. Yes, just one. I give my thanks, because HEY, it still looked cool and I was thankful for the kind gesture. But then a few days later, she noted me. "Why haven't you paid me yet?" Because it wasn't a commission. You asked if you could draw them. She wouldn't have it though. She called it a 'comision.' She kept noting me and harrassing me. I finally gave in and gave her like... five points or something. But oh my gosh, that's so rude. She asked to draw my characters and expected me to pay her. lol How did I turn that into a story???PILOT DON'T BE SO NICE LOL That's one of those times you utilize the block button XD!
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Post by melty on Apr 14, 2014 6:10:51 GMT -6
DA is just full of people like that... What makes me upset is how people now throw around the word weaboo without much thought. For people like me who sincerely like Japanese culture, I have to constantly avoid looking too over invested or passionate, because people may translate as that being obsessed. Where I live, not matter how populars anime gets it's just not that known and I try to not talk about it with people that aren't fellow fans. Also I hate the kind of people who move to Japan and then think they know everything there is to know and generally being elitists.
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Post by Nuciferyne on Apr 17, 2014 2:46:06 GMT -6
DA is just full of people like that... What makes me upset is how people now throw around the word weaboo without much thought. For people like me who sincerely like Japanese culture, I have to constantly avoid looking too over invested or passionate, because people may translate as that being obsessed. Where I live, not matter how populars anime gets it's just not that known and I try to not talk about it with people that aren't fellow fans. Also I hate the kind of people who move to Japan and then think they know everything there is to know and generally being elitists. Awww Yeah I understand the feeling. No one's ever called me a weeaboo in seriousness, but I also have a genuine interest in Japanese culture -- beyond anime. Of course I have an interest in just about any foreign cultures but Japanese is the one I've had most exposure too due to my other interests (such as gaming, manga, and anime, I often would look up stuff to see what was being referenced and continue from there lol). Elitists of any type bother me tbh....
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Post by pilotobvious on Apr 21, 2014 19:27:11 GMT -6
I can't remember if this one has been thrown around before, but if it has, it's probably been in a different context. People who cannot take criticism, advice, or commands.
Being a senior on the track and field team, I have to take a leadership role. Sometimes the coach gives me orders to give to the other girls, to save his time. Whatever, no big deal... right? No. Apparently it's a huge deal and everyone has a hissy fit and the blame gets tossed on me. It's my fault all of a sudden because I'm being too pushy.
I'm helping someone with their form by giving them advice on how to make it better? Nope, apparently I'm calling them out and saying they suck and that they're horrible. It's terrible when people can't take advice and brush it off as me bossing them around.
Today, a non track person asked me how scoring works in high jump if two people missed the same height. You'd think that it would be a tie, but if one person misses more attempts at lower heights, then the person with less missed attempts is the winner. As I was explaining, I used the meet we just had as an example (Where I happened to be the one with less missed attempts and therefore the top finisher from our school), one of my fellow teammates just sighs loudly, and stomps off like I just acted like a bitch.
I was explaining how it worked, not the fact that I got second overall. I even explained how this girl from another school was so talented. I shower everyone else with compliments and I mean every single one. I don't know, maybe my voice comes across as sarcastic. I don't mean it. I guess what makes me mad is that I come across as misunderstood and I never have a chance to explain myself. None of it is really worth my time anyways. I am appreciated by the good people on the team, and the ones who don't like me are the ones who don't care about our team anyways... sooooo there's that.
But it just leaves me with a feeling of extreme anxiety that I can't help but feel helpless.
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